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Equalizer (DSP)


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ReformedNiceGuy

I accept that such things as equalizers are not considered pure from an audiophile perspective.
However, sometimes they're very useful. Some recordings are terrible, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to listen to them. And sometimes, at the end of a long day, it's nice to listen to a warmer, richer style of music.
Allowing the option of an equalizer app (such as Equalizer APO for Windows) would surely be possible without compromising a clean signal path for those who won't use it.

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Tim Corke

Bass is a better word!!


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Tim Corke

Hi Stephen.
I should have mentioned that I dont use a pc.
I just use, streamer, headphone amp, then phones so that was my initial thoughts behind the channel balance on the streamer as it wasnt possible any other way.
I do find the streamer or the Innuos pulse mini,
Seems to lack some base compared to a pc. I dont know if you have any thoughts on that?
Thanks again
Tim


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Tim Corke

I totally agree with not tampering around with the sound. I suppose you could say my ear imbalance because of tinnitus was almost ‘clinical’!
I’m so grateful for you guys helping me sort out my needs.
May be if it was more widely known, that information was available, it would the odd person with a similar situation.
I must say that on some recordings it does mess things up slightly but in general I can now listen to 95% without my tinnitus ear buzzing the rest of the evening (I used to get the buzz even with my phones at quite low volume!)
That really is a major thing for me. Almost the difference between being able to listen to any music at all or not
Thanks again guys


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Stephen Healy

Appreciate the feedback Tim.
I do also think there is an argument that if these kinds DSP features are that important, such as L/R balance control for example, then it makes a lot more sense to contain this within the amplifier. At least that way all your different sources will then get these benefits; streamer, TV, turntable, CD player, etc. The same would apply to room correction.
But if these features really are needed in a digital source, then Roon already has you covered for that and we cannot provide 'the same but free' as it's simply not feasible. We need to strike a different course.


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Stephen Healy

Merged with: Implement DSP-Engine

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Hildebrk

Can you plan in future to implement a DSP engine (Upsampling, Volume equalisation, Equalizer) or other Features similar to Roon in the Sence software?


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Stephen Healy

We are reluctant when it comes to DSP, but let's see what the longer term future brings.


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GroovySauce

Down vote if I could.

There is a cost for Innuos and the customers for every feature some more than others. If EQ is something that is important to you there are products out there you can buy for this. Don't pass the cost to other and future Innuos users.

Roon added more and more features and SQ went down, down down. Please don't do the same with Innuos.


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Stephen Healy

Status changed to: Open

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Sven

Is there any chance that in Favorites it can be possible to eliminate that little empty gap between songs, for a continuous flow of music. Especially valuable during parties ! My understanding is that this is a very simple cross-fading issue.


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Stephen Healy

Merged with: Gaps between songs - optional

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Stephen Healy

Crossfade would indeed be needed for this, which falls into the broader category of DSP and EQ controls, so will merge into that request.


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Stephen Healy

Merged with: Crossfade

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VictorSF

How about the ability to have songs blend into each other thus filling the gap between songs?


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Stephen Healy

On the high-end especially, EQ is something that tends to be avoided.
In terms of tone controls to define certain sounds, having a frequency parametric equalizer could be difficult to use without a deep understanding of the sonics. Perhaps having preset filters/modes by us to determine the sound would be easier?


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ReformedNiceGuy

That sounds reasonable. I can think of accepted filters such as the "BBC dip" for sibilance issues.


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Stephen Healy

Status changed to: Under review

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Stephen Healy

There have been a number of requests along the lines of an Equalizer and other audio-tuning features that could broadly fall under the category of DSP. The main features thus far have been;
- Channel Balance
- EQ (either tone controls or frequency spectrum adjustments)
- Crossfade

We've always taken a bit-perfect approach in terms of audio output, so EQ and DSP is something we'd need to consider carefully in terms of what options are given and how easily they're presented.


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Stephen Healy

Merged with: Crossfade

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David Mills

Would it be possible to add a crossfade feature between tracks like Spotify has .


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ReformedNiceGuy

I, like many others, have to put up with sibilance. I'm pretty sure that I've removed sources of noise from my system, so I assume that the sibilance is a function of either me or the room. Either way, it seems to me that the Zenith's OS might be a good place to implement an optional dip filter around 3kHz


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Stephen Healy

Merged with: Gundry/BBC dip filter

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Tom

Would love to have an equalizer incorporated into
the software for
the Zen


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Stephen Healy

Merged with: Equalizer.

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Sma Wa

Hello,

I would love to see a equalizer in the app. Sure this could be done by roon, but non-roon user would benefit a lot.


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Stephen Healy

Merged with: Equalizer in App

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Sma Wa

An basic equalizer inside the the innous app would be quite nice (for non-Roon users)


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Stephen Healy

Merged with: Equalizer in App

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Stephen Healy

Merged with: Provide Volume Balance Control

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Jon Evans

As a headphone user with a ear imbalance I tend to adjust the LR balance by 2-4db dependent on headphone used. In LMS this was the biggest missing feature for me and a reason I mainly used ROON.


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JU

There are many people who have a hearing impairment.
Also, not everyone hears the same volume in both ears.
An equalizer function in the Sense App would be very helpful, similar to Roon.


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Stephen Healy

Merged with: Equalizer

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Tim Corke

I don’t know how many people have hearing imbalance or tinnitus but a channel balance feature would be fabulous for me at least. The Innuos guys have offered to help with a remote software adjustment to do this. 5* customer service. I think that offer is way beyond most companies would do


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Stephen Healy

Merged with: Channel Balance

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Jim LaLiberty

I vote for adding cross fade functionality, at least for Tidal ( which has it, but which doesn’t currently work in Sense. I think it could actually save our Democracy.


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rjbaudio

PlexAmp has a something similar called "sweet fades" and it's really good. Sometimes the transitions are brilliant, very entertaining. They also have a sonic analysis function which I am sure improves the track transitions when on shuffle (which is also pretty impressive when utilising their library sonic analysis function.


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Nuno Vitorino

We do find it a bit of a gimmick but we'll let you all chime in for this. This does affect sound quality though in a similar way to replay gain.


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VictorSF

Thanks for considering.