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More space to show full album name


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Xavier Donat

As of today (Sense 1.0.9) the UI does not allow enough space to show the full album name. When an album name is quite long there is currently NO WAY to see the full name, as the title appears truncated with “…” (see screenshot).
This happens both in horizontal or vertical mode, both on iPhone and iPad, and this is extremely annoying.
UI should allocate more space dynamically to adapt when album name is longer.
As a workaround for now, the minimum would be that when clicking on the truncated album name, it should expand to reveal the entire name.


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Marco

Would scrolling text when over a certain number of characters be a solution?


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Stephen Healy

The landscape view is going to be changed as part of some UI tweaks in 2.5.5 so that should address that particular situation.
The album length name in the 'grid' view however is something we will need to take a look at.


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Xavier Donat

Hi Stephen, thanks for interacting here. Could you be more specific as to what exactly is going to change? Sharing an early screenshot maybe? And what about for the portrait mode? Will it stay the same?
What are your plans to better deal with long album names?


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Stephen Healy

There are different ways to solve this; scaling the overall UI being the obvious one, but there are other underlying themes here of what the full album name achieves. For example, if the album name is too long but you need to see the end of the title to discern if it is Disc 1, Disc 2 or Disc 3, then ideally the better solution is edit the disc number metadata of the tracks accordingly so that a multi-disc set would assemble under one album entry, not three.
This then relates to another request on this forum for how multiple album versions are treated; users wishing to have one album entry but within that all variant versions are listed; Mono version Stereo version, Deluxe Version, Remastered version, Live version and so on. This could partially solved by starting to include the year of release more visibly on the album which recently came in as another request. For example, if you see two album listings but one has the date of 1971, and the other is 2019, it is a pretty safe bet which one of those is going to be the 'Remaster version'

I'm reluctant to share screenshots at this stage whilst we are still undergoing different beta versions, and due to the reasons outlined above the exact solution for album name visibility is still under discussion.


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Xavier Donat

Thank for the feedback! The UI could also reveal the full album name when the user would tap on the album name truncated with "...".
For now that would be an easy one to implement right? And this would really help. Please let me know your thoughts.


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danfoord

Alt text on 'hover' is one way I've seen this resolved on Web on other services, but this won't work for mobile devices (mobiles / tablets)... some services scroll the title if it's longer than a certain number of characters.


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Xavier Donat

Or a simple tap gesture to reveal the full album name would also solve the issue. But anyway, in landscape mode the font is just way too large.


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Tony

Agreed. Also annoying is the inability to see full album names on multiple album screens and thereby differentiate between individual albums of multiple album sets without having to select by guesswork. See screenshot below as example.


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danfoord

One potential different way to resolve this would be to make all the album names the same (as they are the same album), and then be able to have a separate disc title, when looking at the disc within the album... this is something I requested here (including being able to search on the disc title) feedback.innuos.com/b/feature-requests/add-searchable-disc-title/


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Xavier Donat

Hey Tony,
Very good point you have here.
I do share the same concern since I also have multiple versions of several albums and I cannot tell which is which in Sense... very frustrating.
For example I have two versions of the album "Willy and the Poor Boys" by Creedence Clearwater Revival, and here are the two album names:
1) Willy and the Poor Boys (2009 40th Anniversary Japan SHM-CD) (FLAC) (DR10)
2) Willy and the Poor Boys (2014 Remaster) (HD FLAC 24 96) (DR10)
See screenshot.
I know that, in this particular case, the sample rate indicator (on the top right corner) does help to differentiate them apart but in other cases I do have several album versions with the same sample rate. So this indicator is not enough.
Plus, I would really like to see more of the album name anyway. The number of characters is just not enough in the current UI.
What about creating a separate feature request for this one?


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Stephen Healy

That may apply to this existing feature request;
feedback.innuos.com/b/feature-requests/album-versions-option/


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Xavier Donat

Hi Stephen, the main topic discussed here is the fact we cannot see the entire album name when you select an album (in the “Album View” if you will). Is that something you could work on?


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Stephen Healy

Hi Tony, these look like multi-disc album sets, so the better solution would be here to edit the Disc Numbers and title of each one so they merge into one album entry, not 5 or 6. Admittedly though, there could be easier tools to do this like a quicker multi-disc merging option or a mechanism with which to make these kinds of changes faster, rather than on a track by track level.


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Tony

Hi Stephen, I’m afraid your suggestion of merging together the discs from these sets would not be a solution as each disc of a particular set has its own discrete identity and can stand alone; they are not random selections of tracks which can simply be bundled together. To take an extreme example, I have the collection ‘Bob Dylan: the 1966 Live Recordings’ which consists of 36 discs, each representing either the acoustic or electric sets of numerous concerts recorded on Dylan’s 1966 world tour. To merge these discs into one album would create an album approximately 27 hours long. That, frankly, would be absurd.


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Stephen Healy

Hi Tony, please see image below to see what that would look like. To confirm, each disc is distinctly marked and collapsible, so it is still simple to play the precise disc or set of tracks you would wish; it would not mean loading a 27 hour long list into the queue.
The question is if this is still less preferable than having 36 individual entries into the Albums list - as it stands, you actually have the choice to do either based on your preference.


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Tony

Hi, Yes, as far as I can see this looks like it would be a sensible and workable solution.


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Tony

Hi Stephen, I’m afraid I continue to see a problem. While your suggestion works in collecting discs under a collective album heading it only differentiates by disc number. To return to my previous example of the 36 disc set of Bob Dylan’s 1966 Live Recordings, if I want to listen to a specific concert disc, I need to know the number of that disc. If, for instance, I want to listen to the solo acoustic set from the London concert on 27 May, 1966, as it stands I have to make an educated guess as to which one of 36 discs to select. It would solve the problem if rather than just saying, in this instance, ‘Disc 30’, the disc number could be edited to provide extra information e.g. ‘Disc 30 - Acoustic Set, London, 27 May, 1966’.


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Stephen Healy

That's a fair point Tony, and indeed that Feature has been requested on this board here:
feedback.innuos.com/b/feature-requests/add-searchable-disc-title/


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João Jorge

Agreed.


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