Please add more shuffle functionality, preferably straight from the album, artist or all songs screen. Shuffling from folder view always currently seems to pick the same albums.
01-08-2021 -
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Mark S
All I want to see is on All Tracks list a play random button. Nothing fancy just random play on tracks
Can you let me know what use cases are missing? In fact, the album mix we provide with the selection of filters cannot be achieved on LMS at all. Same with Favorite Albums and Tracks Mix. Personally I used mostly the genre selection and then album mix, which is what we do provide with even greater flexibility.
On LMS I select Random Mix and then able to select pre-determined genres such as 60s. 70S, Pop, Rock.
In Play Anything I don’t seem to have the option to choose a selection of genres.
Am I missing something?
You are indeed! Just go to "Create your Album Mix". You'll be able to access the same filters as you do in albums, including all the tags. You can then create a smart mix based on your selection. So you can create a mix of "70s, Pop and Rock from you local library in high-res" for example. We will add further filters to the album view such as "Decades" based on the release year and this will further allow you more options to create your mixes too. Also, when you go to Music > Albums and create a filter, you will notice now that there is a new "Play Smart Mix" on the top-right corner so you can start a mix from there right away.
Hi everyone, we'll be writing an article about this but a quick explanation of the feature. First, it's a dynamic playlist - it keeps adding music as you go. So when it reaches the last tracks there, it adds 20 more. Our objective is also to add a lot more types of mixes as we go so stay tuned! Artist Mix is definitely one of them!
Thanks for the clarification Nuno. Is there a way to edit tracks in the queue without disengaging the “smart mix”? I would love to be able to delete tracks from the queue as the mix plays.
I'm using this feature for approximately 5 hours now. Could it be that it gets 'stuck' in certain genres? My library is approximately 1/3 blues, 1/5 country, the rest 'rock' in different flavors. I haven't heard any blues or country sofar...
Hi there, could you indicate when this issue is been solved?
It's now for 6 months on this list.
This functionality is very important to make full use of the system with a huge collection of music.
Kind regards Dick
I used iPeng purchased from App Store (or Zen MK3 Music Player i.e. :9999) for randomized/ mix play all songs from both my Zen storage + NAS storage. iPeng just play randomized song indefinitely, which is great, and I just let it playing continuously for burn-in etc. However they don’t work anymore with the recently new InnuOS version, which seems breaking the existing app compatibility (backward compatibility).
For me, the Random Mix feature (which only works from LMS) is more urgent than the streaming to a upnp-renderer (which works from Sense with a little behind-the-screen work). I used the RM feature in LMS to 'rediscover' forgotten albums in my library, and I miss that in Sense.
Roon Radio option is a very nice feature that allows music to continue to play after a selected album , or playlist finishes playing.
It will continue to play music related to the type of artists , or music that was just played. It will also play music that is related ,but not in one's current library.
It is a great way to hear music form artists/groups that one might not have heard in a while, or allow the user to experience new music.
The Innuos Sense app is a great app. I am really enjoying using it and look forward to future developments. I really feel that an Innuos Sense version of Roon Radio, would really add to the enjoyment and experience for users of The Innuos Sense app.
I started Random Mix from IP-adress-of-ZEN:9000. It has been playing non-stop for 8 hours now. The music plays flawlessly and LMS keeps adding tracks to the playlist, just as it does on a normal LMS server. I can also see the playlist in Sense.
Four problems:
- It does not use or see my Qobuz favorites. On a normal LMS, it does.
- It mixes up the cover pics in the playlist from time to time.
- It shows the wrong track from the playlist as playing from time to time.
- It sounds thinner and flatter than playback from Sense does.
I dearly miss the random mix feature in InnuOS Sense. This is present in Logitech Media Server. It even generates a never ending playlist by continuously adding new songs. Similar to Roon Radio.
I'd like to have the random mix feature as can be acessed in Squeeze Control, where your whole library can be covered and you can choose the different play options, ie song mix, album mix, etc. Loved the eclecticism of being able to randomly playlist so many different songs.
In relation to shuffle, there is a little annoying behaviour that when you shuffle a playlist or an album, the player remains in shuffle mode even after turning off the server: when playing a new album it remains in shuffle so I need to turn off shuffle and start to play again. May be there is a trick I am missing.
You can shuffle what's in your queue, but in my opinion it's difficult to sometimes get what you want in your queue in the first place. So more shuffle options or the ability to bulk add to your queue to shuffle would be useful i.e. how can I shuffle all tracks for a single artist, or all tracks of a certain genre... I don't think this is possible, unless I'm missing something. So could see a feature that allows search -> add all to queue -> then shuffle or alternatively just a 'shuffle all results' option. (useful across albums, artists or tracks or search)
It would be wonderful if you could create a "Pandora style" radio feature within the Sense app. I would love to see the ability to create artist and track "radio" like I can in the Tidal or Roon apps. This would be a huge plus for me and I'm sure all other users. Thanks!
Hello,
In iPeng there was an option called random mix; it started a queue of tracks on the HD. So you could let the streamer play random tracks in the library all day long. I can’t find this option in InnuOS 2.0
Random mix was good but limited to select nby genre. With the Innuos 2.0 database and tools, we could have a Random Mix function with filters that could narrow the selection more finely while preserving the ability to discover music within those criteria... That would be very nice.
Great workaround in the meantime. But it won’t load more songs beyond 500 already in the queue. So the current workaround doesn’t scale.
And the w/a doesn’t work to accommodate multiple folders. I have two folders - one from the Zen storage and another one from NAS. Each folder has 10,000+ songs.
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Mark S
All I want to see is on All Tracks list a play random button. Nothing fancy just random play on tracks
Nuno Vitorino
That's already implemented: It's called "Play Anything". When the queue is empty it will also show a button "Random Play" that will do the same.
Mark S
Thanks, I’ll check that out tonight 👍
Nuno Vitorino
I've now created a new feature named Artist Mix. You can vote on that feature here:
feedback.innuos.com/b/feature-requests/artist-mix
I would recommend creating new feature requests for other mixes or improvements and we can go through them individually.
Ashley
Please. Please give us the full comprehensive random features as in LMS
Nuno Vitorino
Can you let me know what use cases are missing? In fact, the album mix we provide with the selection of filters cannot be achieved on LMS at all. Same with Favorite Albums and Tracks Mix. Personally I used mostly the genre selection and then album mix, which is what we do provide with even greater flexibility.
Ashley
On LMS I select Random Mix and then able to select pre-determined genres such as 60s. 70S, Pop, Rock.
In Play Anything I don’t seem to have the option to choose a selection of genres.
Am I missing something?
Nuno Vitorino
You are indeed! Just go to "Create your Album Mix". You'll be able to access the same filters as you do in albums, including all the tags. You can then create a smart mix based on your selection. So you can create a mix of "70s, Pop and Rock from you local library in high-res" for example. We will add further filters to the album view such as "Decades" based on the release year and this will further allow you more options to create your mixes too. Also, when you go to Music > Albums and create a filter, you will notice now that there is a new "Play Smart Mix" on the top-right corner so you can start a mix from there right away.
Ashley
Many thanks for your support Nuno. I had assumed the tags would be found in Play Anything
Nuno Vitorino
Hi everyone, we'll be writing an article about this but a quick explanation of the feature. First, it's a dynamic playlist - it keeps adding music as you go. So when it reaches the last tracks there, it adds 20 more. Our objective is also to add a lot more types of mixes as we go so stay tuned! Artist Mix is definitely one of them!
VictorSF
Thanks for the clarification Nuno. Is there a way to edit tracks in the queue without disengaging the “smart mix”? I would love to be able to delete tracks from the queue as the mix plays.
Grant
Looking forward to your article on Smart Mixes. I have questions on how the feature work.
Arjen Rinzema
I'm using this feature for approximately 5 hours now. Could it be that it gets 'stuck' in certain genres? My library is approximately 1/3 blues, 1/5 country, the rest 'rock' in different flavors. I haven't heard any blues or country sofar...
Nuno Vitorino
No, this is purely dynamic at the moment. Not sure if we can allow editing the queue though. Can you explain the use case?
VictorSF
Being able to delete tracks from the queue as the smart mix plays would be useful.
Garry Redknap
It would be perfect if you could pick by artist instead of just ‘tags’. Am I missing something?
How would I for instance have a mix of all Dire Straits?
danfoord
Yep - love the new feature, but think it covers only part of use case 3 in the feature request I logged here feedback.innuos.com/b/feature-requests/play-shuffle-or-create-playlists-from-search-results/
I'm hoping this gets expanded further in the future.
Dick Besse
Well executed!! Thanks very much!
VictorSF
Thanks for this update! I’m getting only 20 tracks added to the queue when engaging “play anything”, is that right?
Tiago Lopes
Status changed to: Live
Dick Besse
Hi Nuno, could you give us an insight in the date for the next software update when this problem will be fixed?
Nuno Vitorino
Status changed to: Testing
Dick Besse
Hi there, could you indicate when this issue is been solved?
It's now for 6 months on this list.
This functionality is very important to make full use of the system with a huge collection of music.
Kind regards Dick
Nuno Vitorino
This is being implemented and will be available on the next update.
Adrian Musson
Me too
Bert v H
I would love this too
Bert v H
I would love this too
Brian Austin
Would love to be able to shuffle all tracks in library, all tracks from an artist, etc as opposed to only being able to do this from a playlist.
Ole Johannsen
shuffle of whole archive / library would needed :-)
Wilson N
I used iPeng purchased from App Store (or Zen MK3 Music Player i.e. :9999) for randomized/ mix play all songs from both my Zen storage + NAS storage. iPeng just play randomized song indefinitely, which is great, and I just let it playing continuously for burn-in etc. However they don’t work anymore with the recently new InnuOS version, which seems breaking the existing app compatibility (backward compatibility).
Arjen Rinzema
For me, the Random Mix feature (which only works from LMS) is more urgent than the streaming to a upnp-renderer (which works from Sense with a little behind-the-screen work). I used the RM feature in LMS to 'rediscover' forgotten albums in my library, and I miss that in Sense.
Tim
Roon Radio option is a very nice feature that allows music to continue to play after a selected album , or playlist finishes playing.
It will continue to play music related to the type of artists , or music that was just played. It will also play music that is related ,but not in one's current library.
It is a great way to hear music form artists/groups that one might not have heard in a while, or allow the user to experience new music.
The Innuos Sense app is a great app. I am really enjoying using it and look forward to future developments. I really feel that an Innuos Sense version of Roon Radio, would really add to the enjoyment and experience for users of The Innuos Sense app.
Nuno Vitorino
Merged with: Innuos Sense version of "Roon Radio"
Arjen Rinzema
I started Random Mix from IP-adress-of-ZEN:9000. It has been playing non-stop for 8 hours now. The music plays flawlessly and LMS keeps adding tracks to the playlist, just as it does on a normal LMS server. I can also see the playlist in Sense.
Four problems:
- It does not use or see my Qobuz favorites. On a normal LMS, it does.
- It mixes up the cover pics in the playlist from time to time.
- It shows the wrong track from the playlist as playing from time to time.
- It sounds thinner and flatter than playback from Sense does.
Arjen Rinzema
Having the random mix feature from LMS in Sense would be great!
Nuno Vitorino
Status changed to: In Progress
Daniel Gale
Agreed
Arjen Rinzema
I dearly miss the random mix feature in InnuOS Sense. This is present in Logitech Media Server. It even generates a never ending playlist by continuously adding new songs. Similar to Roon Radio.
andrew forgham
Yes. would definitely like have Random mix feature available.
Electricmusic
I'd like to have the random mix feature as can be acessed in Squeeze Control, where your whole library can be covered and you can choose the different play options, ie song mix, album mix, etc. Loved the eclecticism of being able to randomly playlist so many different songs.
Nuno Vitorino
Merged with: Random mix
Nuno Vitorino
Merged with: Shuffle genre
Menno
In the old version I used this feature a lot. Select a genre and play a mix of numbers. I am missing this
Leo Threlfall
Shuffle all songs or even better all songs in a genre, why do I to vote for this, it should be standard
David Dukes
Still no random shuffle on tracks, other apps have it!
Alexis Nolte
In relation to shuffle, there is a little annoying behaviour that when you shuffle a playlist or an album, the player remains in shuffle mode even after turning off the server: when playing a new album it remains in shuffle so I need to turn off shuffle and start to play again. May be there is a trick I am missing.
Arjen Rinzema
I agree. Randomly picking songs from my library is the best way to 'rediscover' albums, and a good alternative to radio listening.
iuderadaelli
And make shuffle turned on and off more easily
Alexis Nolte
Shuffle all songs within a genre would be great!
Richard
I really miss the random mix option on Ipeng. You could choose songs, artists or albums.
Paul Kent
I enjoyed the ability to play random tracks by genre in Orange Squeeze and would like to see something similar in Sense please
danfoord
You can shuffle what's in your queue, but in my opinion it's difficult to sometimes get what you want in your queue in the first place. So more shuffle options or the ability to bulk add to your queue to shuffle would be useful i.e. how can I shuffle all tracks for a single artist, or all tracks of a certain genre... I don't think this is possible, unless I'm missing something. So could see a feature that allows search -> add all to queue -> then shuffle or alternatively just a 'shuffle all results' option. (useful across albums, artists or tracks or search)
Nuno Vitorino
Merged with: Artist Radio or Track Radio
Kevin Ebrahimi
It would be wonderful if you could create a "Pandora style" radio feature within the Sense app. I would love to see the ability to create artist and track "radio" like I can in the Tidal or Roon apps. This would be a huge plus for me and I'm sure all other users. Thanks!
Edward E.
+1 - Love this idea.
VictorSF
Seems when navigating to tracks in library there is not the ability to play all tracks Being able to shuffle play all tracks would be great! Thanks
Nuno Vitorino
Merged with: Play tracks in library
RichardR
Play's continues songs based on your last song or similar music.
Nuno Vitorino
Merged with: Radio or continues play function
Nuno Vitorino
Merged with: Random mix
Dennis
Hello,
In iPeng there was an option called random mix; it started a queue of tracks on the HD. So you could let the streamer play random tracks in the library all day long. I can’t find this option in InnuOS 2.0
Kind regards,
Dennis
guardajoias
Random mix was good but limited to select nby genre. With the Innuos 2.0 database and tools, we could have a Random Mix function with filters that could narrow the selection more finely while preserving the ability to discover music within those criteria... That would be very nice.
Richard
I agree with you Dennis. I really miss this facility in Innuos Sense.
Nuno Vitorino
Merged with: Artist Radio
Stepdol
Similar to feature in Spotify and Roon. Use artist or track as a start point for a rolling tracklist
VictorSF
Ability to shuffle all tracks in music library
Thomas Smith
Temporary work around found:
For now, you can use Browse by Folder mode to choose the Music folder, then use options beside that to Play Random
VictorSF
Great workaround! Thanks Thomas.
David Dukes
Yes, I cannot believe this has not been included.
Wilson N
Great workaround in the meantime. But it won’t load more songs beyond 500 already in the queue. So the current workaround doesn’t scale.
And the w/a doesn’t work to accommodate multiple folders. I have two folders - one from the Zen storage and another one from NAS. Each folder has 10,000+ songs.